Stupid Forum of the Whenever: Mask of Destiny, part deux

BIG BROTHER IM WATCHIN' U

The saga continues.

My last post regarding MoD is a bit outdated now, so here's some new shit.

Since we last mentioned it, I have been undercover at MoD being an ordinary member. I came out that I was previously banned on the actual forum, but decided not to say who for fear of naziimatron's backlash. However several other members seem to know, and I did talk to Deimos about it last year.

This is an old conversation that took place on New MoD, the vigilantes' offshoot of MoD for trollan and bitchan. I'm an admin there now.

Kartoffelkopf

Posted: Nov 7 2008, 01:41 AM

Der Kommandant Group: Admin Posts: 228 Member No.: 5 Joined: 27-October 08 Warn: (0%)

I'm Dooms. And yeah, I'm still IP banned. :/ K I found a proxy that alllows me to register ;) I'm now 'spectacularbush'. I have backup email addresses, so that's good. You guys can use PookMail if you want, it's the same as trashmail but a little less reliable. Regarding Immy, I hate his guts. I rally don't give a shit if he forgives me or not, but he's a whiny bastard and I'm a little glad I don't have to put up with his shit. It would be nice though :P I didn't really do much bad stuff except for having nazi pictures and fifty hitler posts

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scholzie	Posted: Nov 8 2008, 01:19 AM
Champion Group: Members Posts: 150 Member No.: 8 Joined: 31-October 08 Warn: (0%)	Maybe you could Email Fagitron and beg for forgivness on your knees and Suck his Cock Aegis. Then maybe hed unban you for sure. But of course you won't do that, and i wouldn't have you do taht. Kartelkopff Im working on unbanning you, because you had a clean slate and then those nazi images, which shouldn't be a perm ban in my book.

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segosonar

Posted: Nov 11 2008, 09:12 AM

KING OF TOWN Group: Members Posts: 242 Member No.: 6 Joined: 28-October 08 Warn: (100%)

I SENT FAGGOTRON AN E-MAIL! HE REPLIED: Im short on time so Ill get the offense list later, your more likley to be let back in than some of the other members though since what you did was in protest to what you thoughtof as wrong instead of just to harass staff. I dont care who else loved the comic, just becasue someone else loved it doesnt make it any less offensive to me or theother staff. Any member I bann has been for breaking rules. Aegis said many rude things and practicaly attacked the staff every time we so much as edited a profanity out of his post. He's been given many chances, Ive banned and unbanned him at least six times. Some of his humor was okay, but the humor that often was intedned to insult wasnt. I just cant facilitate someone of his nature on the forums. Even now he keeps making fake accounts on the forums just to come in and and cause trouble, Im not going to knowingly let him back in for this. Ill get back to you later, Im running late for work now so Ill answer the other things when I get back. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Imatron, I just want to talk, okay?> First, when you banned Aegis and refused to unban him, when you banned Explorer for "trolling" yet let Deimos go scot free, then when you banned TK and Doomsday, you sent an unmistakable message- unintentional or accidental possibly, but unmistakable: "People who are not thin-skinned and humourless, utter morons, or 16/fs are not welcome here". Second, TK and Doomsday are doing all that they did that made you want to ban them because they want to see you unban Aegis. I'm warning you, I know Doomsday from my days on SVMB and she is not to be trifled with. I would advise that you unban Aegis or risk bringing a... well... shitstorm down on MoD. A shitstorm I feel it does not deserve, and is probably already happening. Third, concerning the rule against joke links- It is too stringent. There are scary things that can be joke-linked to, and compared to them, RickRoll/DuckRoll/ZOMBIE ATTACKED are like a three-year old leaving a worm in your sandwich compared to young insane adults on MTV performing an insane prank that causes massive damage and anal burns to the victim and gives much lulz to everyone in the vicinity (which is then imitated by thirteen-year-old boys who end up giving themselves massive anal burns, causing their parents to sue MTV and make them shift the timeslot of the young insane adults involved in the original to an inconvenient time which causes much anti-lulz to those who were amused by the original prank). To mention those scary things by name- Pain Series, Tubgirl, Goatse, LemonParty, and so on and so forth. Fourth, Those comics I sent you... you know that member "Kokua"? Well I sent those to her earlier, and she LOVED them. Fifth, If members are going to get pissy that someone made humour of them- well, that's too bad! They set themselves up to be made humour of anyway. Think about it. Sixth, I am curious, what is my full offense list?

Kartoffelkopf	Posted: Nov 11 2008, 09:40 AM
Der Kommandant Group: Admin Posts: 228 Member No.: 5 Joined: 27-October 08 Warn: (0%)	Erm, what I did was in protest instead of harassing staff. What the fuck?

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segosonar

Posted: Nov 12 2008, 11:23 AM

KING OF TOWN Group: Members Posts: 242 Member No.: 6 Joined: 28-October 08 Warn: (100%)

EMAIL FUN WITH FAGGOTRON One last thing, I realized I forgot to talk about Deimos who you mentioned. Between Explorer and Deimos they had been going back and fourth with eachother, and I think what happened was that I first delt with Exporer who was reported as harrassing a member, who was Deimos. I looked at the urls provided by the member who reported them, and saw Explorer as being the agressor. It wasnt until after I talked to and removed Explorers access that I received complaints about Deimos, in which he had also been causing trouble. I started searching through his posts and found that he also had had his fare share of trolling. I had been about to ban him but I found that the members took it on themselves to make a topic and talk to him for what he had said, and worked things out with him. Rather than ban him and negotiate being invited back to the forums like with you and Explorer, I honored his word in the topic where the members talked to him and gave him a warning. I remember propaganda minister, we may have been able to get along better if we had gotten off on the right foot. In protest to how I was running things she called me Nazitron, I PMed her about it, asking how I was supposed to take the apparent insult, if it was more of a nickname or actualy intended to insult me, rather than just ban her on the spot for it. She expressed her dislikings for how I was running things in a reasonable manner in her responses, and I heard her out. I wasnt willing or able to do some of what she wanted, I did seriously connsider some of her points and suggestions though. I got complaints about her Nazi images, so I removed them and PMed her to let her know I removed them for the complaints. She responded by grabbing a helper and using him to help her cover the forums with oversized Nazi images and hate-phrases. It took Tasaraki roughly ten minutes to clean up the mess, where he eventualy discovered a "delete all posts/topics by member in the past (insert number)days". At this time Im unwilling to knowingly let her or her helper back in, one because the fact she did this after I heard her out felt like a slap in the face, and will take time for me to get over, second becasue I pretty much run things the same way as when she was removed, and I feel like it would be inviting her back into the same circumstances that she found uncomfortable in the first place and would further complicate things. As Nate had wisely put it, Moderation on the forums has lagged behind to the point that when anyone tried to moderate that it cased trouble of one kind or another. I promise Ill do my best to moderate fairly for everyone, with stuff like this happening my best intentions are often misunderstood or cause other complications. If you see instances of my lack of speed and ability to moderate fairly to you and other members I ask for your patience with me and your help to notify me of these instances. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Mohammed K > I apologize for those, Captin had sent me some Pokemon porn featuring Typhlosion and Tyranitar. Secondly, thank you for not going through the trouble of previewing every fucking topic/post before letting in anywhere on MoD, like is done on BZP. Thirdly, Doomsday is also known as Kartoffelkopf and Propaganda Minister. SHE is > not anyone to tick off, anywhere. Fourthly, which members had been particularly offended by Aegis and what had he done to them? I'm a little curious. Fifthly... I'll try to keep that kind of stuff to myself and those who can handle it.

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Kartoffelkopf	Posted: Nov 13 2008, 04:25 AM
Der Kommandant Group: Admin Posts: 228 Member No.: 5 Joined: 27-October 08 Warn: (0%)	Wait he took fifty hitler posts seriously? what I don't know what he means by 'hate messages' either, unless 'NAZIIMATRON KILLED MOD' is a hate message now

anyhow

The Hazard Forum has been eliminated for dubious reasons thanks to naziimatron.

Here's my post [in the topic linked] reproduced here for posterity:

I think we should discuss the closure of the Hazard Forum. This is because the actual topic was closed far before I could get to it, despite stasiimatron saying the topic was left up 'to discuss its removal'. If this is the wrong topic for it, I shall create a new one.

I understand it mostly went unused, but your reasons for deleting it were dubious at best. The whole point of the board was to post things that would ordinarily be restricted by the rules, so saying that it 'volated (sic) ... the basic rules of the forums themselves.' is complete bullshit.

I don't understand what you mean by topics which 'v[i]olated the rules stated in the agreement' as I'm quite sure there was no pr0nz or any more flaming than this forum usually has in its spam-filled gutters (the only exceptions I can think of are the fetish thread, which didn't actually suggest anything, and the offensive jokes thread). Please explain.

Furthermore I find it incredibly hypocritical how you allow[ed] the use of 'violence ... and gore ... that may be equivalent to a rated R movie, or rated M(ature) video games' when you also explicitly forbid 'post[ing of] explicit or even suggestive material of certain acts' for fear that the automated ads might pick up on them (assuming that people actually click on them, which I assure you they do not). I believe those who are viewing the material are mature enough for suggestive things, especially since we're talking about gore here. I understand the restriction on pr0nz, but suggestive things are fairly tame. Especially compared to gore. I guess it just shows the US' unjustified hatred of nudity and such as opposed to graphic violence.

I don't miss the place as it was indeed not very active, but I would simply like a better explanation for your reasoning, as it is not a very good argument and indeed seems to be contradictory in several places.

- Cheers,
Specceh

Swert is back and causing trouble again. Thankfully, more people are waking up now and seeing that he is, indeed, a douche.
The 'dox' mentioned are documents Aegis linked a number of people with proof that Swert had needlessly censored and removed some topics. And then of course he called it 'warez' and tried to pin it on us.

The joke I mentioned has a punchline like this:

"This is only $200."
"Yes, I'm suing you for $2300 for sleeping with my wife."
"But I didn't."
"But she was here, and you could have."

You can see how incredibly ridiculous this is.

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