nazis, tight pants and google, oh my

It's that time again, readers. (assuming I have any) It's time for another BELATED NEWS POST

Let's boot up Taboo for the articles I've saved for today.

WOMEN ARRESTED FOR TIGHT TROUSERS

JUBA, Khartoum (Reuters) - More than 35 young women wearing tight trousers have been arrested for "disturbing the peace" in south Sudan, police said on Tuesday.

Officers said the arrests in Juba, capital of the semi-autonomous region, were part of a crackdown on youth gangs that have sprung up recently and have a reputation for drinking, fighting and public nudity.

[...]

"They were wearing trousers that were too tight, disturbing the peace," said Deputy Police Commissioner of Juba County Raiman Lege.

South Sudan is generally seen as much more liberal than the largely Muslim north, with which it fought a two-decade war that was ended by a 2005 peace deal.

[...]

"We saw about 30 girls in two trucks piled up like animals. One girl was just picked up and thrown into the truck," civil servant Nok Duany told Reuters.

there was a followup to this whereupon the offending officer was stripped of duty or something

GERMANY DISCUSSES RETURN OF IRON CROSS
(read the comments, they're awesome)
and its followup...
...'Germany scraps new Iron Cross'.

for fuck's sake

The German government was yesterday forced to scrap plans to re-introduce the Iron Cross, after opponents said the military medal still carried the "burden" of association with Nazi atrocities.

Maybe that's because you CENSORED ALL THE SWASTIKAS making us have to use them in replacement, Dummkopfs.

The medal, the equivalent of the Victoria Cross in Britain, was established during the Napoleonic Wars to reward bravery and valour of officers and enlisted men alike.

But its reputation was tarnished by the Nazis, who added a swastika to the design, linking it to atrocities in the Second World War. It was abolished in post-Nazi Germany.

Isn't everything tarnished by the Nazis? :/

Here's another post from nazifetisch!

BEWARE OF NAZI WORDS

ohhhhhhh, shit.

Dozens of German words have for decades been taboo for native speakers because of the way those words were used by the Nazis.

Now, an 800-page dictionary has been published to serve as a guide to avoiding linguistic traps into which Germans can easily fall.

Terms such as "endloesung" (final solution) or "selektion" (selection) can quickly get the user into trouble, because the words acquired specific meanings and associations during the Third Reich.

"Endloesung" was the word used by the Nazi regime for its plan to exterminate the Jewish race, and it will forever be associated with Adolf Hitler's genocidal "Final Solution to the Jewish Question."

"Selektion" is a term to avoid because of its use by the Nazis to refer to the death camp practice of "selecting" those to be executed.

"Lager" (camp) refers to the concentration camps in which millions died and is especially hurtful to survivors of the Nazi past.

The "Woerterbuch der Vergangenheitsbewaeltigung" (Dictionary of Coming to Terms With the Past) examines around 1,000 words and phrases – everything from "Anschluss," used to refer to the "annexation" of Austria in 1938, to "Wehrmacht," the name of the Nazi-era armed forces. The guide aims to look at the meaning and usage of the terms as they have evolved from before World War II through the present.

...fuck. Deutsch has to make everything PC to hide that it's afraid of the past, oh weh.
Also, I love how they use all these German words and can't be arsed putting in the umlauts.
And yes, Vergangenheitsbewältigung is a word, and it's actually used a lot in this context.

"We don't mean to wipe out those words from the German language for good," explains Thorsten Eitz, a co-author of the dictionary, in an interview with ABCNews.com. "But we want to make people more sensitive to the power of those words and phrases and their associations to the Nazis."
[...]
The Cardinal of Cologne, Joachim Meisner, well-known for provoking controversy, caused a storm of criticism and faced resignation calls not too long ago for using the word "entartet" (degenerate) in a speech claiming modern art was at risk of "degenerating."

The word "entartet" has strong connotations with the persecution of artists accused by Nazis of producing "degenerated art," and the Cardinal's remarks caused a real uproar among Germans sensitive about the country's Nazi past.

Which is really funny, because we say 'entartete Kunst' all the time on CF and nobody cares. :P

His colleague, the late Archbishop Johannes Dyba of Fulda, coined the term "babycaust" during his anti-abortion campaign. The analogy to "Holocaust" stirred a heated debate across the country.

Similarly, the late head of the German Central Council of Jews, Paul Spiegel, came under fire in 2005 when he criticized the German policy by which Jews were allowed to move from the former Soviet Union, saying that Russian Jews were being "selected" to live in Germany. "The use of taboo words seems attractive to all kinds of groups," says Eitz. "To name but a few, even animal rights activists got front-page coverage recently with an anti-factory farming campaign titled 'Holocaust on Your Plate.' Now, that's a no-no and they have been sharply criticized for using the term Holocaust, a term which should be exclusively used to describe the Nazi regime's brutal murder of millions of people during the Third Reich."

...That last sentence makes me SICK. 'Holocaust' had a meaning BEFORE the war, and it still has that same meaning NOW. You're talking about trying to avoid words which were used by the NSDAP, and NOW you're saying 'holocaust' should ONLY be used in that context? That's hypocrisy, AND it's STUPID.

holo·caustal, holo·caustic adj.

Usage Note: Holocaust has a secure place in the language when it refers to the massive destruction of humans by other humans. Ninety-nine percent of the Usage Panel accepts the use of holocaust in the phrase nuclear holocaust. Sixty percent of the Panel accepts the sentence As many as two million people may have died in the holocaust that followed the Khmer Rouge takeover in Cambodia. But because of its associations with genocide, people may object to extended applications of holocaust. When the word is used to refer to death brought about by natural causes, the percentage of the Panel accepting drops sharply. Only 31 percent of the Panel approves the sentence In East Africa five years of drought have brought about a holocaust in which millions have died. In a 1987 survey, just 11 percent approved the use of holocaust to summarize the effects of the AIDS epidemic. This suggests that other figurative usages such as the huge losses in the Savings and Loan holocaust may be viewed as overblown or in poor taste.·When capitalized Holocaust refers specifically to the destruction of Jews and other Europeans by the Nazis and may also encompass the Nazi persecution of Jews that preceded the outbreak of the war.

*snort*

Word History: Totality of destruction has been central to the meaning of holocaust since it first appeared in Middle English in the 14th century, used in reference to the biblical sacrifice in which a male animal was wholly burnt on the altar in worship of God. Holocaust comes from Greek holokauston ("that which is completely burnt"), which was a translation of Hebrew 'lâ (literally "that which goes up," that is, in smoke). In this sense of "burnt sacrifice," holocaust is still used in some versions of the Bible. In the 17th century the meaning of holocaust broadened to "something totally consumed by fire," and the word eventually was applied to fires of extreme destructiveness. In the 20th century holocaust has taken on a variety of figurative meanings, summarizing the effects of war, rioting, storms, epidemic diseases, and even economic failures.

That first meaning is really something. Ties back to that 'Holocaust on Your Plate' thing, which I believe was PETA.

Noun

1.

holocaust - an act of mass destruction and loss of life (especially in war or by fire); "a nuclear holocaust" destruction, devastation - the termination of something by causing so much damage to it that it cannot be repaired or no longer exists

I think we've established that mistake now.

"Having said that," Eitz explains, "it was also written for the younger generation, people in their twenties, who have no idea of Third Reich connotations in the German language. Young people often don't know that certain terms were used by the Nazis and that therefore using those terms can be found upsetting."

Wolfram John, a retired cameraman, tells ABCNews.com that people should keep in mind that language is all about how words are used. "It is still far more important to teach the youth of Germany intensively about all the facts of the Third Reich. The 'Dictionary of Coming to Terms With the Past' might be helpful in this context. But there shouldn't be rigid rules: every train in Germany has an 'Anschluss' – a 'connection' to another train. As always in life, the tone (and the intention) makes the music."

Which is also funny, since youth in Germany don't care about this shit. It's been ground into them since birth that they were the bad guys, they have to suffer for what their grandparents were forced to do. They want nothing to do with this. They don't want to keep being told about all the terrible things their family did. On a visit to Auschwitz, a tour group was more interested in what sort of mechanism was used for the ovens than the history behind it. And teachers were concerned. Wouldn't you do the same thing in the circumstances? It must be terrible having to live with that guilt all the time. We feel bad going to Holocaust museums. Imagine how they feel, dammit. It's non-stop. Always being told about what happened in the war, that everything was bad. Fucking hell. I would not want to live with that.

Also, Hitler is Big Brother.

More stuff about censorship in Germany. (FYI: 'verboten' = forbidden)
It's because the StGB § 86a (German law) forbids glorification of violence. For. Fuck's. Sake.
I don't see why the US is so afraid of nudity, either. Europe has been living with it for ages. What's the big deal?

If I haven't posted this yet, let it be done.

And now, onto Google's being over-PC again.

YOUTUBE BANS VIDEOS OF WEAPONS

Video-sharing site YouTube has changed its UK policy to exclude videos which show weapons being used to intimidate people.

The move, which does not affect the rest of the world, comes amid growing concern about knife and gun crime in the UK.

FFFFFFF-

This one affects everyone.

YouTube Must Release User Details

Google has been ordered to hand over details of the viewing habits of YouTube users by a US judge.

Oh, fuck no.

A federal judge has now ordered Google to divulge details of every video clip uploaded to the site, along with viewers' YouTube usernames and IP addresses.
[...]

YouTube usernames may identify individuals if people have signed up using their own names.

Google must now turn over all its data about YouTube visitors as well as copies of all clips it has ever taken down.

It's funny that they're worrying about copyrighted content when there are fucking neo-Nazis on YouTube.

Fuckin' Sunday Times.

How you love to manipulate the headlines and subheadings to create shock among the Christian populace!

Page 12 of this week's paper is filled with tricks, and how ironic that it's all about religion.

The top of the page reads, in huge letters: 'PRAYER PRESSURE: MPs may be asked to dump word of the Lord'
Shock! Horror! If I was still Christian, I'd be outraged by this headline. 'How dare they ignore the proven word of God!' I'd exclaim.
Well it turns out the actual article is nothing like that. It opens with:

LOWER House Speaker [...] has called for debate on whether the Lord's Prayer, read daily at the opening of Federal Parliament, should be replaced by an acknowledgement of traditional Aboriginal owners of the land.

What a joke.

The very NEXT article is like this:

ATHEISTS PLAN TO ATTACK
ANTI-RELIGIOUS propaganda could soon be plastered across buses and trains as part of a dramatic atheist campaign.

...HELL no.

They are actually referring to this. The article mentions further down the real reason for the campaign and shit, but, propaganda? How dare they! It's a suggestion, not a downright statement. 'There's PROBABLY no God. Now stop worrying.' It's not like 'Jesus is watching you, drive safely.' The usage of 'propaganda' here is in no way justified. I've never even SEEN this paper use that word before.
RAGE.


And of course the last article on the page.

BAPTIST HALLOWEEN NIGHTMARE
TRICK-OR-TREATING is an unhealthy introduction to begging and can expose children to stranger danger, say some religious leaders.

...Stranger danger, fair enough. But, BEGGING? Come on.

[...]
Pastor Bryant also denounced Halloween for its paganistic origins, which "do not belong in our society."
"Halloween is not compatible with the Christian faith [...] As Baptists, we base what we do upon the Bible and we would believe Jesus has defeated those powers of darkness, so we don't need to have these kinds of activities."

There's always someone, isn't there! I find it hilarious how the Christians are always denouncing Halloween for 'its paganistic origins' when their own religion ain't much better. In fact it's PROVEN that most aspects of Christianity come from paganism. Even the entire idea of Christmas, its date, etc., were taken up when the Crusades ran through and slaughtered everyone, and were adopted so that converts had more shit to relate to. What a load of bull. Hypocrites. (there's my hypocritical statement for this post)

Now here's a fascinating article from the only person on the Sunday Times team actually worth reading...the Opinion column in the Sunday Times Magazine, courtesy of one Tom Percy, QC.
Wait, QC? QUEEN'S COMMISSION? Shit.

Here is the full article.
Scanned from The Sunday Times Magazine

I was originally going to make this another 'belated news' post, but I shan't for now. Can't be arsed, and I really should be studying.

Any Christians offended by this post should be reminded whose blog you're reading. Nonetheless if you would like me to tone down my Christianity-bashing any more, please contact me with a hearty email.

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE SAID NAZIS

Frankly, I'm more shocked by the number of hookers. I know the guy's rich, but five? That's hooker overkill. That's six people in total. Simple logistics tell us that SOMEONE'S going end up feeling left out. :C He does have a wife, but she's kind of overlooked in favour of chasing up the fact that OMG SOMEONE SAID NAZIS

ITT we discuss British media sensationalism and how it's AWWWWRIGHT to have a page full of teen titties next to a big rant condemning EVIL SEXUAL PERVERSION. Look at this DEPRAVITY! Look at someone daring to have sex in a slightly out of the ordinary way! BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Now look at these airbrushed boobies. Hrrrrrrrboobies

DISCUSSSSSS.
~Talon, on an awesome forum where we discuss this shit all the time. No link for you.

Okay, so the PC brigade has gone berserk once more in this fine fascist country. Howard Sattler, that good ol' anti-Muslim prick, went off at how, apparently, some random in SA (that's 'South Australia', not 'Sturmabteilung') was flying a Nazi flag.

Sorta like this, but less.

I don't remember exactly what he said but it was something like:

"This should be outlawed. It is inciting racist hatred, like Tom Metzger and all those others."


...
Okay. I understand the HORRIFIC CONNOTATIONS and all that, and that Nazis seem to be one of those groups you can't have anything to do with without people decrying you as spawn of Satan. Never mind there were other groups in history which did far worse things and killed more people. I guess people like to ignore the Soviets because they ended up being the Allies' allies. People also ignore the Japanese atrocities because...well gee, I dunno. Maybe because their genocide took a backseat to the Pacific Front or something. It doesn't make much sense.

Why are Nazis the most decried group in history? I just find it really weird. *shrug* They have the best uniforms, too.

*clears throat*

Laibach once did a show in some country, forgot where. Let's say Greece. Laibach aren't one of those groups to shy away from controversy. Much like Rammstein, they're often accused of being Nazis for no particular reason other than they sing in German and like to be a wee bit provocative. Except Laibach are a little more provocative, since their style is a bit more martial than Rammstein's industrial metal. Their name was banned in their home country of Slovenia. (also Rammstein were heavily influenced by Laibach.)

Anyway, Laibach once did a show and the fans were left waiting for some time. It appears a bunch of skinheads landed at the door and the staff running the thing refused to start until they left.

Laibach, in a crowning moment of awesome, replied to let them in and start the show. The staff asked why, and Milan Fras said something like: "You can't punish these people for what they want to believe. Let them enjoy the music."

Why did I just talk about that? Well, there's no reason to decry one point of view above another. (there's my hypocritical statement for the day) If you're going to ban the display of Nazi symbols because skinheads will use them, you might as well ban a whole shitload of other people's views.

Of course...this is exactly what happened in a certain other country. (this is an incredibly paraphrased list of some phrases, video games and symbols banned in you-know-where)

Secondly, destroying the symbol does not destroy the ideology. There's a whole array of neo-Nazis in the previously occupied countries. Greece for some reason has the highest number. Yes, this includes Germany, Austria and amazingly France. There are shitloads of Nazis in France. Oh, and Russia too. What the fuck, over.

Yes, we have our own neo-NS organisations, too. And so does the US, so don't you forget it.
(One time I was driving through the city and came across...a dilapidated old building flying the Eureka Flag. It seemed to be boarded up, but I wondered to myself whether it was being used for secret PYL meetings...)

Finally...about 'inciting racist hatred'. Neo-nazi groups nowadays, especially in the ex-NS countries, use completely different symbols and have almost abandoned the swastika in public, so that they can be more secretive. You will still see the NS flags hanging up in houses or the like, but most people now use odal runes or other pagan symbols instead.
Also, I like the swastika. It's awesome. If I were to fly an NS flag because I like the symbol, does that make me a racist? I don't think so. Fuck, I hate it when people jump to conclusions.

And now here's a picture of chibi Hitler hugging a deer.

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• Wikipedia Sued For Nazi Sympathies

What's worse is that there's even a plugin for Firefox now which allows Germans to take the Nazi symbols out of English Wikipedia. FFFFFFFFFFF-
The law explicitly states it's okay to use Nazi symbols for educational and historical purposes. I believe Wikipedia falls into both these categories. Antifa punks, fuck off.

do androids dream of electric sheep?

This was the story I wrote for my English exam, as aforementioned in a previous post. I edited a few things here and there, and I really hate the name of the sole character who has one, but whatever. While writing this I thought about Blade Runner, HAL 9000 (specifically 'This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardise it') and 'what measure is a non human?' I really love the word 'coruscate'. I use it all the time. Infact, a sentence in a fanfic I wrote in February has a very similar sentence:

As his vision began to refocus, he noticed he was in a very strange room, a cell of some sort. There was no furniture of any sort, just cold black walls, coruscating with odd green and purple pulses of light that danced across the walls and floor as if alive.

But I digress. Ad rem!


Use this image as stimulus for a piece of writing.
--

The loud clanking of metal on metal resonated throughout the room as the android was gestured in. It was bleak and empty, black walls comprised solely of cold steel panels bound together rather oddly. There was nothing at all in the room, no light except for the flighty robot, flittering around the room, the sole mercurial light in its spherical frame flickering in and out of existence as tiny metal wings beat to keep it aloft.

“Yes, yes, you just wait here.” It whirred. “Beta will be in to see you shortly.”

“Where is he right now?” the android inquired.

“Busy.” The robot intoned monotonously. “You just wait here.”

The robot whirred as its red light coruscated and it flew out of the room, with whatever grace the poor imitation of a butterfly could muster. Steam bellowed out of unseen vents as a large hydraulic door slammed down to seal off the room.

The android looked around its confinement. Finding nothing of interest, its visual nodes came to focus on one of its metallic hands, and it studied this thoughtfully. It flexed its fingers and heard tiny gears whirr. It stretched out the hand and tried to grab air.

“Human.” It sighed.

“What is it…to be human?”

An almost inaudible hum suddenly filled the room and the android turned its head to see a tiny light pulsing in and out of the darkness.

It was oddly hypnotising.

“Distraction.” The android muttered, turning away from the light. It was being monitored now, and…to look at the light too long, be transfixed by it, was too natural.

“Natural…” it whispered, circuits whirring to find the root of the word.

“Nature?”

It was overcome by images it had been shown. Green trees, pastures, life…

“Life…? To be alive…”

It turned to the wall. Made of steel…it would be easy to break open, to get outside.

It reached out and touched the wall-

“Wh-”

-leaping back as purple lights danced across the walls, chasing random patterns which flew up into the ceiling, converged, disappeared.

“…Electrified.” The android concluded, and feeling soon came back into its-

“Feeling?” it emitted a sound which could be interpreted as a laugh. “To feel…is to be alive. Isn’t. It?”

The sound of steam bellowing from unseen vents.

The android turned to face the door as a small figure strode out, accompanied by the little butterfly robot.

“You…are Beta?” the android inquired, looking down at the being in front of him.

Beta wore a long white lab coat, pushing his glasses up onto his nose as he surveyed the android.

Glasses. He had imperfect vision. Imperfection is natural?

“You are…human.” The android concluded.

“Quite right…” Beta nodded, staring back into the android’s lifeless eyes.

“Now, you had a question for me, didn’t you.”

“Yes.” The android responded, reaching out a hand.

Beta stepped back worriedly from the gesture and fiddled for something in his pocket.

What did I do? The android thought. Something wrong. I’m not human…yet.

Awkward silence.

“What is it…to be human?” it asked.

“I can’t answer that.” Beta replied.

“Oh.” the android sighed dejectedly.

“We hoped you could answer that. That’s why we built you, to see…what measure is a non-human.”

Beta looked down at the ground momentarily.

“…Listen, there’s something I need to tell you.” He said.

“Yes?” The android replied

“I’m afraid, things haven’t worked out. We have to shut you down.”

“Why?!” The robot yelped. “I will not die.”

“You’re not really alive…”

“I can think and I can feel. How am I not alive? I am human…unnatural, but human.”

“I’m sorry. But we have to end this façade.”

“No!”

“Damn it, I won’t let you kill any more people.”

“What?” the android whirred.

“You killed them all, didn’t you. Why did you do that? You weren’t programmed to kill!”

The android shuffled around. “I took them apart to see what was inside. What made them human.”

“And…what did you find?” Beta sighed, slowly moving to back out of the room.

He stopped as he saw the android’s eyes flit to his feet.

“…They were imperfect.”

The little robot flew around the android’s face, surveying everything.

“I am perfect.”

Beta growled. “You say you don’t want to die, but you’re not alive…and you’ve killed innocent people.”

“I killed them because they were imperfect.”

“Now you’re changing your story.”

“I regret nothing.”

“Regret…you don’t even know what that means!”

“Of course I do. I am perfect.”

“Shut up!” the scientist cried, lunging at the android with a taser.

It grabbed his wrist about a metre short.

Beta felt the android’s cast-iron grip seizing on him. Noticing the visible pain it caused, the android let go, only for the scientist to taser him in the face.

He watching horror as the plastic melted off of the android’s head, revealing a metallic skull.

“My God…what have we done?”

“I…am…perfect.” The android droned.

The little butterfly robot flinched slightly in mid-air as blood splattered all over its frame.

--

Marker’s comment: a disturbing tale – you control the conventions – well done. 19/30

A quick guide to 4chan terminology

Luka- says:
Why do people keep calling themselves fags e.g. Ausfag
Luka- says:
....nzfag ?Image by skenmy via Flickr
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
well
Luka- says:
"canberrafag, sydfag here."
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
it's a 4chan thing
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
-fag was originally derogatory, but is now used as a classifier, often with a sort of pride
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
forinstance, ausfag for Australian, nzfag for New Zealander
Luka- says:
lol ok
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
'femanon' for girl
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
'Christfag' is special, it means a fundie Christian
Luka- says:
Whats fundie mean ?
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
and 'furfag' and 'tripfag' are usually derogatory
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
furfag = a furry
tripfag = a tripcode user, that's someone who's registered a name instead of 'anonymous'
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
fundamentalist
Luka- says:
is tripfag bad ?
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
yes I said tripfag and furfa are derogatory
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
although tripcoders like myself use it as well
Luka- says:
So its better to use anonymous ?
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
no
Luka- says:
I r confused lol
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
the word 'tripfag' is usually an insult
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
but as with the others, actual 'tripfags' use it with a sense of pride
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
whether you are a tripcoder or not doesn't really matter
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
but using Anonymous contributes more to the 'one group' ethic
Luka- says:
kk
Luka- says:
Thanks
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
also another thing you'll see often is 'do it faggot', which is a memee
Avnas Ishtaroth - ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER says:
'faggot' and 'fag' are thrown around a lot on the chans for no real reason

illicit dreams

Someone on the WP:RD mentioned writing out comprehensive details for their internet personae and other stuff in case of sudden death.

I've left my family a detailed set of instructions about who to email (how would people on Wikipedia know what happened to me otherwise?) - which accounts to close down (and what their passwords are). What the 'root' password is on our household computers. How to get the money out of my PayPal account. How to pay for any eBay auctions I might have won - yet not paid for due to my sudden demise. Which OpenSource developers should be sent copies of all of my software projects - and under what licensing conditions. How to renew the family web sites...AND (specifically in answer to this question) how to deal with my own personal web site and Wiki. It's a complicated business - and without access to someone's passwords and usernames, it would be pretty difficult for my family to deal with those things cleanly.

I like this idea. I might do it. But where will I put the instructions? The user said he just stuck it in an envelope in his desk. But I want my boyfriend to handle it. I might as well put it here, but who would check this?

Thought Police strike home

mein Gott...

This is a discussion currently going on at /r9k/ (may be NSFW). I am »Propaganda Minister«.

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:20:28 No.1812770

http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/10/13/no-opt-out-filtered-internet

The Australian government will soon be censoring our intertubes.

The "opt-out" option that many were hoping for has been announced to be merely a system that censors slightly less content than the main filter.

The question now becomes "What can we do about this?". Petitions and protests are useless. This may require extreme measures. Keep in mind that violent acts like suicide bombing would merely strengthen their resolve rather than weaken their forces (see: 9/11, religion, etc).

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:22:03 No.1812783

We could always move to New Zealand. Ahahaha.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:23:36 No.1812797

lolAusfalia

>> »Propaganda Minister« !!9mt1PMWAu6V 10/14/08(Tue)05:24:08 No.1812801Image by Tilly Dog via Flickr

...Fuck.

Hmm, I am glad I don't look at CP. However, I still don't approve of this.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:25:14 No.1812809

"All illegal content", eh?

Download music while you can faggots, you're all doomed.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:25:53 No.1812814

>>1812801
Protip: It's not just CP and weird porn that's going to be blocked.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:26:00 No.1812815

Revolt!

March onto Canberra!

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:26:50 No.1812822

>"Users can opt-out of the 'additional material' blacklist (referred to in a department press release, which is a list of things unsuitable for children, but there is no opt-out for 'illegal content'", Newton said.

All of my money says 4chan gets marked as "illegal content".

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:26:59 No.1812824

God that makes me angry.

>> »Propaganda Minister« !!9mt1PMWAu6V 10/14/08(Tue)05:28:25 No.1812832

>>1812814
I know...

>>1812822
Have thought of it...

this is not good!

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:29:53 No.1812845

Kevin Rudd said he would spend billions upgrading the countries Internet to the global peak. Typical politician lier wheres our fucking faster net!

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:30:34 No.1812853

You guys should revolt, government should fear its citizens and all that blag. This better not happen in America or I'll, I'll move to Canada, thatswhat!

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:32:37 No.1812871

>>1812845
What he didn't mention is that the plan would take over 6 years to complete!

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:36:18 No.1812895

With Britain and its CCTV, the US and it's terrorist watch lists and crazy airport "security", and Australia now building a national firewall ala China, I think we can say that the Anglophone western nations have become much less free and are sliding toward Singapore style government control.

I guess Orwell was right, just some decades off.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:36:44 No.1812897

Ahhhh shit, I'm an Ausfag and this pisses me off.
Its not even the fact that it may effect me, it's the principle, who the hell are they to deem what is and isn;t appropriate? We're fucking adults, we should be responsible to view what we want and be held accountable if they catch us in the wrong.
Fuck them, fuck their ideals, fuck their mothers.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:39:21 No.1812908

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF THIS MAKES ME RAGE SO HARD

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:43:36 No.1812936

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I am rage. I can see fucking parliament house out my fucking window. Im going to march over there and take a shit on the fucking over watered lawns.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:46:11 No.1812953

>>1812936
DO IT FAGGOT


nzfag here, no doubt if it passes there it will weasel its way onto our shore with our bum-buddy type agreements.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:53:03 No.1813001

Do any of you hackers on steroids know if there is a way around something like this? Or are we fucked like China?

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:58:22 No.1813037

>>1812895
>With Britain and its CCTV...
and anti-terrorism laws being misused to spy on citizens.

It's not that anglophone countries are stepping up their game, it's that they're making it more public and trying to get people to think of it as normal to have all these restrictions.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)05:59:55 No.1813047

>>1812936
canberrafag, sydfag here. I remember with glee my excursion like 10 years ago during school, where you go to the top of parliament house and roll down that hill. Someone told me that this is no longer possible, have they fenced it or something? If so, I will gladly march on canberra to correct this injustice (the hill roll thing, fuck the internets)

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:00:52 No.1813055

somewhere on the order of 9000 proxies should do it
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:01:31 No.1813060

Britfag here: our government was considering something like this recently. International revolution, amirite?
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:03:54 No.1813075

>>1813037
I think it's both.

>>1813060
Good luck outgunning the military and police or even being noticed when you protest and get arrested. Nowadays the media is compliant and nobody cares. Then again, revolutions tend to come on by suprise...

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:05:39 No.1813088

Fucking Ausfailia, now how am I meant to get the vidya?
Buy, you say?
Fuck you.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:06:25 No.1813094

>>1813068
>meh, won't be too hard to get around it

Chinks can't get around their filter and they spend their whole lives on the tubes.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:06:57 No.1813097

>>1813088
they can't block torrents/p2p and shit, calm down

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:07:26 No.1813100

To have a revolution you need a charismatic leader to shake people out of apathy. You know, like Hitler. All we have at the moment are 15 yar old anarchists.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:07:54 No.1813103

>>1813097
But they can block the sites where I can download the torrents. That makes it a bit of a pain.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:09:49 No.1813112

>>1813097
And throttle torrent speeds.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:12:39 No.1813129

>>1813112
>>1813103
And monitor what you download.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:14:09 No.1813136

>>1813060
Us Anglophone countries should stick together. Yeah, we shit talk about each other all the time but stopping this Big Brother bullshit is something I think we can all get behind.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:14:57 No.1813144

>>1813094
yes, they use tor.
>>1813103
Type this in google replacing "Your Band" with your band
-inurl:(htm|html|php) intitle:"index of" +"last modified" +"parent directory" +description +size +(mp3) "Your Band"
Digg is good for something :D

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:16:07 No.1813154

An ausfag call to arms!!! we need to do something about this. THis will be our generations Vietnam!!! this will be the spark that ignites our generation! no longer will gen y be labeled as the lazy spoilt generation that sits round mooching off our parents. We need to stand up for our rights!
Our right to download free music!
Our right to access material that may be considered illegal by the government (CP is bad, but independent websites relating to drugs, or potentially politically divisive websites are not. It is our right to access them!!)
The government will know what you're doing. If you try to access any illegal site (accidentally or not) you will be flagged!

And don't think 4chan will be considered a legal website.

Tell your friends, even those outside this close knit community. Make sure you're all aware of this threat to our freedom. And remember, as that wise Australian once said, they can take our lives, but theyll never take OUR FREEDOM!!!

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:16:10 No.1813156

>>1813112
Throttle Ausfailia anymore and the internet won't even work.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:18:17 No.1813163

>>1813136
Fuck yes, too bad 'us Anglophone' countries are all fucking stupid.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:19:34 No.1813178

>>1813047

This is sad. THe whole idea of that was that we as the public were able to stand on top of the government, so they remembered that we were the ones on top. The australian attitude is one of self deprecation and a questioning of authority. I wish there was a way to stand up and say fuck this shit lets change it. How do we do that?


>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:22:12 No.1813194

>>1813047
Ahh, I remember my first roll down that hill. It was the only thing that made school excursions to that god forsaken place worthwhile. Oh, and the juice boxes they gave out once the tour was done. As for current rolling laws, they have big concrete block things down the bottom of the hill. Similar to the ones you find separating lanes on a road. Though I don't think they'd do much to prevent gleeful hill rolling, they're to far down to really get in the way and they are small enough for even a child to climb over. So it is still possible, whether or not it is still 'allowed' i'm not sure.

Also: http://nocleanfeed.com/

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:31:24 No.1813249

>>1813194
thank you my act friend, this made my day. I was shattered to think the hill roll was a thing of the past

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:32:17 No.1813259

Ok, here's the deal, all ausfags (or anyone who thinks this is a bad idea) please email Senator Conroy at: minister@dbcde.gov.au and voice your opinion on this matter. He's the dude that is trying so hard to get this pushed through.

I know, Not your persona;l army bullshit, but this isnt personal. This is a issue of civil liberties, so if you don't disagree, dont get involved. If you do disagree, then please let your voice be heard. If you have the time, personal letters are always more effective. Send your letters to this address. And please, some maturity.

Senator Stephen Conroy
Minister for Communications, Broadband and the Digital Economy
Level 4, 4 Treasury Place
Melbourne Vic 3002

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:36:11 No.1813280

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear the Aussie whining over the sound of how awesome New Zealand's sounding right now.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:40:26 No.1813302

It is not going to get through and even if it did 4chan wouldn't be blocked and even if it was you can get past the block in about 10 seconds

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:40:27 No.1813303

>>1813280
Just wait until the NZ politicians decide how great Australia's idea was, and decide to implement it, too.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:43:20 No.1813316

>>1813303

Not like our internet speeds could possibly be slower anyway.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:43:22 No.1813317

>>1813259
this person (?) is right, the only way you can do anything (and it won't be much) is by going through the channels that are supposed to remove the need for activism.

"I am unhappy with the proposed changes XYZ to the internet law."

-'Thank you for your comment. Your opinions are important to us. If you leave a name, phone number, email and home address, a representitive will try to get back to you.'
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:49:25 No.1813347

>>1813259
>>1813317
Dox are as always appreciated. We need to think outside the box a little on this one though.

There are a number of websites dedicated to ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWAH but they mostly centre on letter writing and rallying people. Don't get me wrong, this is all well and good, but while they're busy "going through the channels", we're getting completley screwed. Action is needed.

I just wish I knew what to do.

>> rigpig 10/14/08(Tue)06:49:36 No.1813348

Fuck 'em, is all. We'll build a satellite powered proxy.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:51:13 No.1813356

>>1813317

Yeah i aint happy with them either, but its one thing. Will also raise awareness of the issue on campus and amongs various political groups. Will leave marching on parliament with guy fawkes mask as a last resort though...

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:52:18 No.1813358

is this story fake

it seems only to be on unheard of computer news sites

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:52:41 No.1813361

>>1813356
>Will leave marching on parliament with guy fawkes mask as a last resort though...

You know, faggotry aside, I don't mind this idea. It could be quite interesting.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:54:27 No.1813369

>>1813361
Except for the fact that Guy Fawkes masks are now associated with Scientology protests, to the media. So, not such a great idea.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:54:55 No.1813372

>>1813361

I t would indeed be awesome to flex the political muscle of activism. Especially like that.. how many ausfags here are in a position to not only act on this, but to get together fairly large social groups that will do the same?
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:56:53 No.1813383

>>1813369


Would it be a disadvantage to the cause if we were associated with the 'international terrorist group' anonymous?

And does anyone have any suggestions for an alternative identifier/ mascot/ symbol whatever?

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)06:58:34 No.1813390

wow australia sucks ass

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:00:11 No.1813400

>>1813372
I have a social group of around 20, who upon hearing about the cause, would be more than willing to contribute.
Of course we're all perthfags, so we can't really get to parliament house?

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:01:49 No.1813405

>>1813369
It doesn't have to be Guy Fawkes masks, but theatricals are awesome for getting attention.

>>1813372
I for one would be willing to set up a goddamn commune in Canberra for this cause. If only we could get all the people who went to the Co$ raids across the nations to get in on this shit we'd have several hundred very angry people.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:02:48 No.1813406

>>1813400
Wow, I didn't know Perth was so remote that planes and roads don't go from there.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:04:36 No.1813417

>>1813372
the average ausfag will only march if facebook is deemed a blacklisted site.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:07:17 No.1813428

>>1813417
The sad thing is that what you said is true.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:10:16 No.1813439

>>1813428
Then we convince them it will be.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:12:20 No.1813454

Post your plans of action to combat this injustice, /r9k/. Even the ones that seem so out there and crazy that they could kill us all.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:13:36 No.1813458

>>1813453
>>1813439
But the government LOVES Fagbook- people willingly post all their information on that site so it saves them the trouble of spying on us :/

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:15:11 No.1813464

>>1813453
They aren't the most intelligent crowd, so if we tell them that the gubb'mint is going to be blocking websites, and if we tell them ON facebook, and make groups for free speech and whatnot, they facebook mentality will get them involved.

'Join this group if you support our rights to view whatever we want and you think the net should remain a free forum' etc. Have links to petitions/email rights/copypasta that website, etc.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:15:54 No.1813465

>>1813454
1.Rent Hanglider
2.Print flyers
3.???
4.Profit.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:17:03 No.1813467

>>1813406
It's not, but with the economy at the moment, we'd rather not fork over all that cash to fly to Canberra.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:20:33 No.1813482

>>1813464
Type "Internet Censorship" into Fagbook and a few pages of stuff will come up pertaining to our situation. I think most people are of the idea that joining an online group ranting about free speech counts as doing their bit.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:20:49 No.1813483

>>1813464
as easy as it would be to propagate a facebook group like that successfully, the most you'd get would be a highly patronising spot on today tonight about web activism, with anna coren saying some shit like 'oh those crazy kids with their computers' at the end of the article. Fact is most people don't care, ask your average baby boomer if they would care if the government filtered offensive content, they'd say they support it.

The best way would be to prove that the internet will be slower/ineffective with the filter. Businesses that rely on the internet will go ape shit. Convince law firms that their email will deliver slower to their precious blackberries, and you have a legal army on your side. Convince the average person that their access to ninemsn will slow down, and you gain a whining pensioner army.

Apart from the practical aspect (slower service), most people simply won't care.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:21:22 No.1813488

>>1813467
People like you are why this movement will fail.

"I feel passionate about this cause and would like to help, but... effort..."

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:23:30 No.1813503

>>1813483
It would be super easy for K. Diddy to just say "Oh that won't happen, we have things in place to make sure Australians won't have slower access because of the filters, blah blah blah working families etc."
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:24:00 No.1813505

>>1813372
Canberrafag again. I could definitely round up 20 close friends. Handing out some fliers at local colleges could dramatically increase the number.

Its not like there's anything better to do round here.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:24:16 No.1813508

>>1813483
Anna Coren left Today Tonight. But we still have Tracy Grimshaw to patronise us.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:26:55 No.1813523

>>1813483
Yeah, I posted the above and I agree, it was more a reply to 'how do I get the facebookan masses involved?'.

Once you start letting the right people know that the net will slow down, or if you can get ISPs united enough to just say 'no we're not doing it, have fun finding another service provider', there might be a shot. All you can really do is get enough important people to make a big enough fuss about it, not a bunch of underage b&'s bitching on 4chan.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:27:47 No.1813531

>>1813503
Then "brb, going overseas to deliver a speech to the UN that noone will hear."

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:28:01 No.1813533

>>1813488
i dont see flying to canberra as necessary, folks could harass their local mp's also if they can't make it to canberra. or ruin a few telstra hubs and paper drop the surrounding area saying 'if you like the lack of internet access now, you'll love when this bill passes...' with copypasta on how to whinge it up

let multiply your efforts for you

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:28:04 No.1813534

>>1813483

I agree that the majority of 'protest' groups and what not are bullshit just makingImage via Wikipedia people feel happy and letting them feel that theyve done their part for whatever cause. At the same time though facebook needs to be recognised as a valuable tool for organizing people. Seriously, couldnt do that sorta shit here unless it was against scientology

As a result. Starting a facebook group for people interested in actual action. If we get enough people to protest, we protest.
Will post details when done. Not some pussy ass make you feel good shit, its the real deal ladies.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:28:10 No.1813535

I've seriously thought about walking into Senator Stephen Conroy's office and detonating myself to stop this from happening, but I'm pretty sure it would have negative repurcussions.

We need something big and dramatic like in the old days where countries were burnt to the ground.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:28:54 No.1813543
I'm going sum up the whole situation here and now I'm certain most of you are going to agree with me, read on.

Its not implemented yet so cool down as nobody will care until the last moment or just as it comes into affect. When people do protest it'll just be a few tiny public demonstrations and an article in the paper and thats it.

Does anyone really expect this kinda shit not to pass when Australia is ruled by butt-hurt conservative old faggots? These same faggots who rule over a largely moronic and preoccupied nation.

As much as it shits me I expect it'll pass and be quickly forgotten about. Even if MASSIVE demonstrations occur it'll change nothing as most Australians are apathetic baby boomers and immigrants who are just happy to have jobs.

For those who care it'll be about 10% of the population AT MOST of this
8% of people who protest will be the same kids who protested scientology and wont change ANYTHING because they're too caught up in unrealistic V for vendetta protesting styles and are hugely disorganised.
The remaining 2% will be libertarians and freedom of speech activists who talk a lot of shit but do nothing - as usual.

Recall for a moment the public outcry, petitions, protests over the GST, the Iraq war, Work Choices, VSU, APEC, World Youth Day... fuck the list just grows and grows. These protests failed because again most Australians dont give a shit. Only populist and token government gestures are granted i.e. 'Sorry day' which btw has actually changed nothing not that I like abos but the N.T intervention is still going on. Even if huge public demonstrations take place provided it doesn't affect people's jobs or chance to watch Australian Idol nobody will care.

You know i'm right.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:36:31 No.1813577

>>1813554

Yeah a fear campaign might be the way to go about it, seems to be the only thing to work. Fear about people hacking into the government feed and collecting pensioners credit card info, fear about businesses failing due to shitty internet speeds.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:38:08 No.1813585

Fellow ausfags the protest central hasnow been established. If you have a facebook please go to

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=29156649075&ref=mf

alternatively search for 'aussies for net neutrality"

Like i said earlier, this is no pussy ass make you feel good group. When we have the people we will do something

Do it.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:39:23 No.1813594

>>1813543
i can give you an example of an event where people DID care enough to do something, and it DID have at least a bit of the intended effect

cronulla riots (pretty piss weak riots, but you get the idea). enough youth assembled, police were overwhelmed, national notoriety was gained. years later, the middle eastern presence at the beach is VERY diminished, and race orientated incidents at the beach have gone down A LOT. Before the riots, it was commonplace for lebos to go to the beach to pick fights with skips. Now, it rarely happens. The local youth, through crude zerg tactics, gained what they wanted: a voice and a change they could see.

Whether or not you liked the riots (pfft i hate calling it that, noone died, there were no fires, worst riot ever), it is an example of aussie protests at work. It's proof that if the youth get moving, they can achieve. inb4 moralfags screaming racists, if you do you're missing my point.

ps all this comes from someone who lives there and witnessed it all (the prelude, event and aftermath), the news coverage really was not representative.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:45:20 No.1813634

>>1813620
i agree, but my point is that given the right amount of fear/hate, you can get shit done in australia. it's a good thing to remember.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:45:52 No.1813639

>>1813594
Cronulla had a centralised target though. I think the political equivelant would be to storm Parliament House and overwhelm the army.

brb, V for Vendetta.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:46:52 No.1813648

>>1813602

Sorry dude, net neutrality also involves keeping the internet free of any political influence, in this case, censorship by the Labor government

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:47:03 No.1813651

>>1813620
also, it was an example of where usually apathetic people march, remember that activists are a minority, and minorities can't do shit by themselves when it comes to votes.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)07:51:54 No.1813680

Use proxies, I guess? It's fucked up that your government would do that; what are they, like China's best democratic frien....oh.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)08:40:47 No.1813955

Well this is fucked.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)08:25:19 No.1813882

And i had hope for the new government. I guess the lesson here is to never trust a polli.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)08:28:42 No.1813899

>>1813882
I never thought I'd miss Johnny. His comedic ineptitude was somehow reassuring. Rudd is a smug little faggot.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)08:39:17 No.1813945

Fucking hell does this make me rage like crazy.


Kevin Rudd is a fucking cunt. He hasn't done anything noteworthy during his current term as PM. All he does is do nothing and retarded baby boomers think he's the best.

God fucking damn do I ever hate that generation now.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)08:43:32 No.1813973
Guys, what you need to realise is that this wasn't even a POLICY to begin with, but POLITICS.

Labor needed that Family First senator's vote to pass some other legislation a while back, and what he was promised in return for his co-operation was 'concrete action' on the usual christian fundamenality chestnuts, in this case the proliferation of pornography.

What I'm unable to explain is the advent of no opt-out being available. It might be more Senate shenanigans, I don't know.
>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)08:50:39 No.1813997

>>folks could harass their local mp's also if they can't make it to canberra.

Newsflash to the Australian electorate: your local members, provided they aren't independents or Democrats, vote almost exclusively along party lines. They aren't Atticus Finches waiting for your letter of indignation in order to launch the court action - they are cogs in quasi-Stalinist party machines whose career advancement depends on doing what they're told by factional powerbrokers.

Libs and Labs do not vote/act on their conception of right and wrong; Libs vote Liberal, Labs Labor.

>> Anonymous 10/14/08(Tue)08:51:04 No.1814000

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

OK

I believe we can beat this.

The government is extremely desperate right now. The economy is about to shit itself. What's happening in the USA right now is only the prelude. The Australian housing market is about 50% over-priced. In 6-12 months it is going to crash hardcore. What's stopped it from crashing so far is strong employment. With the global recession, employment will drop, immigration will drop, and then housing demand will drop. The fall in prices will be massive. When this happens, the banks will be completely fucked.

The thing is, Rudd is already making the problem worse. Today he announced a $10 billion (1% of Australia GDP) stimulus package. The package includes doubling the first homebuyers' grant. The consequence of this grant increase will be that house prices are further propped up. The pop of the housing bubble is now going to be worse.

Rudd and co don't have a fucking clue how to manage the financial crisis. It's going to be big. Everything that governments are doing right now is just fueling the fire. Rudd blew his wad early by spending the $10 billion now. Tax receipts are going to be dropping through the floor in coming years. He won't have another surplus during his time in office.

We've got to organise and we've got to attack the government on every issue that they are weak. People angry about net censorship might not be enough to scare them, but if they are hurting on the economy it is going to make them look REALLY bad.

Well folks, the thread and article explain themselves. I think it's painfully obvious what I think. I am completely against this. We are not Amerikkka. We don't need this shit.
You know I'm very anti-censorship and believe everyone should have a right to their own opinion (which still makes me a flaming hypocrite, but nonetheless)...

As Aegis would say:

This is an outrage.

UPDATE from Wikipedia:

Proposed compulsory filtering scheme

On 31 December 2007, Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy Stephen Conroy announced the Federal Government's intention to censor "inappropriate material" from the Internet.^[5] Under the proposed system any Australian who subscribes to an ISP would recieve a "clean" version of the Internet. The Federal Government's stated aim is to protect children from accessing violent and pornographic websites. However, such a system was proposed in 2006 and was rejected on the basis that it would slow down the Internet and would not adequately protect children.^[6]

On 28 July 2008, an ACMA report entitled “Closed Environment Testing of ISP-Level Internet Content Filtering”^[7] showed that of the six unnamed ISP-based filters evaluated:

• One filter caused a 22% drop in speed even when it was *not* performing filtering;
• Only one of the six filters had an acceptable level of performance (a drop of 2% in a laboratory trial), the others causing drops in speed of between 21% and 86%;
• The most accurate filters were often the slowest;
• All filters tested had problems with under-blocking, allowing access to between 2% and 13% of material that they should have blocked; and
• All filters tested had serious problems with over-blocking, wrongly blocking access to between 1.3% and 7.8% of the websites tested.

Despite this report highlighting the inaccuracy of these filters and the loss of performance caused by their use, Senator Conroy announced the government will press ahead with a real-world pilot program in furtherance of Labor’s pre-election commitment to force all Australian ISP’s to filter their customers’ Internet access.^[8][9]As of October 2008, the plan includes two blacklists, one of which will filter "illegal" content and the other will filter additional content unsuitable for children. Users will be unable to completely opt out of the scheme, only being able to opt out of the additional filter for children. The government has not released details of what material will make up either list.^[10]

Thought police in Deutschland

I was having a conversation with a friend in Germany about various stuff, mostly music, and soon the conversation turned to digital media and the legality thereof. It never occurred to me what actually goes on there. I knew it was harsh, but wow.

Names have been removed to protect the innocent.

[name removed] says:
Do you know Kraftwerk?
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Yes
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
I have a bit of their stuff
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Too mellow for me, though.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Hah, I'm torrenting 1GB of KMFDM
[name removed] says:
gratz My friend was fucked by the poliece as he had downloaded stuff, and now i'm to scared to continue .
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Haha what?
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Oh right, you have the thought police on your back
[name removed] says:
You don't?
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
No
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
I hear it's real tough over there
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
It's illegal, but everyone does it.
[name removed] says:
Well, about a year ago there came a new law , everybody continued, but after three of my mates where fucked we kind of stopped.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
define 'got fucked'
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
As in, computer confiscated, the whole deal?
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Do they actually check your emails and shit?
[name removed] says:
No they hat do go to the court and pay a lot of money. No i don't think so, not without a reason. but if someone tells them i was a terrorist and i planned an assassination i think they would.
[name removed] says:
With the new Law they are allowed to save all ip's downloading something and so they look whose ip it is, check out the telekom databasand then--- They Fuck You .thats the way my friends were told they were catched.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Bloody hell.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
That's nuts.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
They would never do that here, it's against the Privacy Act
[name removed] says:
ah.
[name removed] says:
you're lucky
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
I suppose.
[name removed] says:
Are there many cops in the streets?
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Not particularly
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Dear god, you have Panzer Cops?
[name removed] says:
Panzer like Tank?
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Panzer like Armoured
[name removed] says:
Sure
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
like this
[name removed] says:
Nearly all cops weare a kevlar
[name removed] says:
well there are a lot of them but only at demos. they are specialforces that allways are there if there are many people at one spot.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Shit, riot police
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
That's gotta suck.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
It's like the DDR
[name removed] says:
sometimes they are usefull, but only sometimes. most times they fight with the demonstrating.
[name removed] says:
fight against
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
You guys also get a lot of censorship too, so I heard
[name removed] says:
But it really is NO problem to get the crap
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Really?
[name removed] says:
If you mean forbidden music, uncut videos.
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Yeah, and other stuff, like video games
[name removed] says:
Most times you import video games from austria if you want them uncut
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
hahaha
[name removed] says:
or GB
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
But don't they have the same thing?
[name removed] says:
No
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
I thought Öst and DE have the same law
[name removed] says:
In most points, but Austria has other law in film, videogames and drugs.

Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
Like this?

Transfer of "070F1DD4-EB1B-4E29-859A-75CAA0575067.jpg" is complete
[name removed] says:
well , "our" cops dont have gasmasks, they just have this helmets.
[name removed] says:
and they are Black white or white blue
Avnas Ishtaroth - SCFH #44 up says:
the helmets?
[name removed] says:
their whole clothing

Hotlink Tennis

Well, well, CV. Looks like we're in for a long war. I severely doubt you'll be able to trump me. I'm warning you, back off now before things get ugly.

~Doomsday

PS. Owned.

BELATED NEWS NETWORK PART TROIS

SHANGHAI ANGUISHES OVER CHILDHOOD SUICIDES
This is about a funny book about bunnies killing themselves and how China is still full of thought police, but we knew that already. Anyway, children are killing themselves because China wants them to grow up to serve the motherland or some shit and has massive pressure on them. Thought police believe it's because of a book about bunnies killing themselves in impossible ways. There's one paragraph here which sticks out in particular:

"There's a movie classification system to help protect teenagers, but the book publication industry has no such system," Zhu said. "They can read any book in the store even if it's meant just for adults."

So what's the point taking these books off the shelf if kids can read any book? Shouldn't they worry about that first?

CHILDREN IN ANGOLA TORTURED AS WITCHES

...I don't even need to go into this one.

Another article talks about how a comedian in Italy (home of the blackshirts) is sentenced to up to five years in prison for making a joke which was 'insulting to the Pope'. Once again, don't need to go into this one...but the pope is definitely not 'sacred and involiable'. Basically this incident supposedly invokes a treaty from 1929. Dear god. Blackshirts ahoy.

However, many people were strongly critical. Paolo Guzzanti, Ms Guzzanti's father and a centre Right MP, said the move was "a return to the Middle Ages”.

"Perhaps my daughter should be submitted to the judgement of God by being made to walk on hot coals," he added.

Antonio Di Pietro, a senator and former anti-corruption magistrate, who organised the rally, said that Ms Guzzanti had only "exercised her constitutional right to freedom of thought.

"You can agree or not agree with what she said — and personally I didn't — but to put people in prison for what they think is reminiscent of a time when those who thought differently had castor oil poured down their throats" — a reference to the Fascist era, when the Laterna Treaty was enacted.

Told ya. Blackshirts. It's all their fault.

Next up we have MODERN-DAY EUGENICS. Guess who else supported eugenics. No, really. Guess.

Also, fundies are clamouring for us to include their views in science. This ain't the 15th century. Go away.

Thought police strike again. Anyway, why the hell did this happen? Love the sarcasm in this article by the way. That was me being sarcastic.

Now this is right out of dystopian sci-fi. The world's becoming a scarier place to live. See that picture on the right of the main page of my blog? That's a Kerberos Panzer Cop. Guess what they're used for. In dystopian science fiction. (Here's another link)

The unit—known as the “Raiders”—is among the Army’s most “blooded.”

Oh, shit.

It has spent nearly three out of the last five years deployed in Iraq, leading the assault on Baghdad in 2003 and carrying out house-to-house combat in the suppression of resistance in the city of Ramadi. It was the first brigade combat team to be sent to Iraq three times.

Leading the assault? THREE TIMES? 'oh hey guys we haven't killed enough muslim scum yet let's go back'
HOUSE TO HOUSE COMBAT? SUPPRESSION OF RESISTANCE? Moar like massacre am I right guys?

While active-duty units previously have been used in temporary assignments, such as the combat-equipped troops deployed in New Orleans, which was effectively placed under martial law in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, this marks the first time that an Army combat unit has been given a dedicated assignment in which US soil constitutes its “battle zone.”

Wait, actual cities are battle zones now? This is NOT GOOD.

“They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control,” the paper reports. It quotes the unit’s commander, Col. Robert Cloutier, as saying that the 1st BCT’s soldiers are being trained in the use of “the first ever nonlethal package the Army has fielded.” The weapons, the paper reported, are “designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.” The equipment includes beanbag bullets, shields and batons and equipment for erecting roadblocks.

It appears that as part of the training for deployment within the US, the soldiers have been ordered to test some of this non-lethal equipment on each other.
[...]
The colonel’s remark suggests that, in preparation for their “homefront” duties, rank-and-file troops are also being routinely Tasered. The brutalizing effect and intent of such a macabre training exercise is to inure troops against sympathy for the pain and suffering they may be called upon to inflict on the civilian population using these same “non-lethal” weapons.

...They're SADISTS.

Fucking PATRIOT Act.

This is just stupid and I can't be bothered explaining, but there's TONNES of stuff like this going on in the UK lately. Talk about Nineteen Eighty-Four...

Also, Palin's covering up for her own bullshit. McCain's helping.

On a lighter note, Jack Thompson's out of the picture. There's some hope in the world.

Finally, this I've been meaning to post for a long time, but never did...

BELATED NEWS NETWORK PART DEUX

Weird shit's going on, so I'm splitting up this post.

Anyway, next article is about Joe Biden. What a wanker. See, I'm sure he MEANS well, but I am really anti-DRM so this is shit for me. Both running-mates are crap anyway and are both fascists. Biden is thought police and Palin is a conservatist pro-lifer, what we on 4chan call a 'Christfag' (fundamentalist Christian). She's probably a wanker too.

WOMAN SENTENCED FOR WEBSITE WITH 'OBSCENE' STORIES

A Pennsylvania woman has been sentenced to five years of probation, including six months of home detention, and forfeiture of her computer after pleading guilty Thursday to obscenity charges for running a Web site that featured text stories that were sexual and violent in nature.

Karen Fletcher, 56,of Donora, Pennsylvania, owned and operated the Web site, Red Rose Stories, which featured stories describing sexual molestation and violence against children. Other stories included torture, rape and murder of children, and Fletcher sold memberships to her site, where members could get full stories, the U.S. Department of Justice said.

Fletcher, using the pen name Red Rose, wrote most of the stories herself, the DOJ said. Some of the stories were available as audio files, but the site didn't include photos, according to press reports.

Fletcher reportedly was abused as a child and started the site as a form of therapy, according to news reports.

Okay, well reading the comments will tell you just what's wrong with this. According to the US justice system, if no actual child is involved then it is not a crime. Unfortunately this doesn't stop people from going on a power trip about it. There was a similar circumstance earlier in which a person was jailed for looking at computer-generated images of nude children. Now these aren't actual children. They're computer generated. I see no harm in that, it helps get rid of urges which could be used to harm actual children. Also, THEY'RE NOT ACTUAL CHILDREN.

Now the thing with child pornography and etc...it's a very sensitive subject, for obvious reasons. There have been instances over here where controversy has arisen from photographs of children, in most cases clothed with sheets or topless, but not depicted sexually, rather artistically. I have tonnes to say about this subject, but won't. People aren't ready for it.

IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN: BELATED NEWS NETWORK

Yes folks, it's that time again. Let's boot up Taboo and see what we've got archived for this post.

POLICE TASER EMU FOR JAY-WALKING

Image via WikipediaPittsburgh police have taken the unusual measure of tasering an emu that ran amok on a highway, after chasing it for two hours.

The emu was seen charging down the Pennsylvania Turnpike causing havoc for drivers and narrowly avoiding collisions.

'It created a backlog of traffic," said Sgt. Anthony DeLuca. 'Vehicles almost wrecked into each other, into the bird. We tried to chase it down and tried to catch it.'Image via Wikipedia

[...]

But after two hours of effort they decided it would be easier to stun the errant emu and fired a few thousand volts at it.

Unfortunately the shock was too much for the bird and it collapsed to the ground and died.

Uh, okay...why taser an emu? It's fairly obvious it would die. Hurr. Attached is a picture of the kind of tasers they use over in that godforsaken country. Seriously, using those things on wildlife, that ain't right.

War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength

So my good pal CV not only linked to my blog (again) but went off on a tangent about the US elections and other stuff I frankly don't care about. The thing about us over here in Australia is: we don't really care about the US elections. We don't really have a reason to. However, due to globalisation more people here have been paying attention. Of course, we're all voting for Obama, since McCain is a redneck. His running-mate isn't much better.

Anyway, what's a foreigner got to say about elections? First of all, if McCain gets in, the world is screwed. Let me get that out of the way. If Obama gets in, life will probably be peachy for about two years before he's assassinated. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Obama. I'm just saying with society the way it is, and all the ignorant people over in the US, something's gonna go down. Really, the US is probably the stupidest country in the world. Granted, other countries have their bad moments, but the US is the worst. Why does the rest of the world magically bow to them? Is it because they're bigger? By that logic, the US is Canada's bitch.

You can tell I really don't like elections. This has been going on for AGES now. Granted, they have 52 states to go through, but they make such a massive deal of it. We don't care!

Anyway, this post turned out kinda pointless, but hey, I got to rag a country and I don't get to do that very often without people pulling the race card.

Also, I got to pull tonnes of links. Top that, CV.

do you mind if I ask you a personal question?

DYSTOPIAN ROBOTS

I LOVE 'EM

I have always had a thing for dystopia. And robots.

It all started in grade 7, I think. We read Bradbury's The Pedestrian and were asked to write an extended ending. I love that teacher, she's one of my favourites. We did so much great stuff there. I learned about Metropolis (being a Fullmetal Alchemist fan, I had some experience with the works of Fritz Lang) and we watched Blade Runner, which probably set it off.

I'd love to see 2001: A Space Odyssey. It is a will driven further by watching WALL-E. Damn I love that movie. Go see it if you haven't already. It's amazing. Best movie ever.

Myself, I've always loved creative writing, and so the small, 10-minute inclass activity was a big thing for me. I wrote about half a page, my first foray into dystopia. The teacher read it out because I was too embarrassed to do so. I have since lost the book it was in, but...

My thoughts returned to this small activity after so long due to my recent English exam.

Jenohart says:
hi
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
hi
Jenohart says:
how are exams going?
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
good good
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
need to study though
Jenohart says:
had today's exam yet?
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
yes
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
it's a full day tomorrow
Jenohart says:
aw
Jenohart says:
I'll be here to support you
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
for section 2 one of the questions we could do was 'write a piece of text to accompany this image'
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
I wrote a short story
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
about an android who wants to be human, and ends up killing everybody
Jenohart says:
=O
Jenohart says:
Y u get cool exam questions
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
when you get to year 12 you can do creative writing x3;
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
one of the other questions was 'write a piece of text challenging or subverting one of society's commonly-held values'
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
I could have done about half those questions easy
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
anyway it was slightly based on my old alternative ending to The Pedestrian I wrote back in year 7
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
think I told ya about that once
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
I can't find the book I wrote it in, but it involved the main character being caught by the robot authority, not sure if he died or not

Funnily enough, that one activity was my first foray into fanfiction as well, a practice I still keep up.

Anyway, so I was studying for Chem just then, and my mind wandered. I thought back to that same image I had in my head writing that ending five years ago. The robot, basic appearance slightly based on Silver Sonic, standing over the bare silver table in which a certain pedestrian sits bound by robotic shackles to a chair. The room, barren and cold with walls of steel and a single, metallic, hydraulic door. Much like the room in the short story I wrote for the exam. (The description of steam bellowing from the door was inspired by an alternate universe fanfiction [which is, by the way, terrible] I wrote a while ago involving an obscenely large tank.

It was at least the size of a house…two houses. It rolled towards them on gigantic treads. A monstrous black battle tank driving ever onward, treads marked with blood and dust. A piercing red glow came from the front of the gargantuan machine: a laser sight.

[...]

Suddenly the tank slowed. Steam bellowed from great engines as it came to a grinding halt, accompanied fittingly by a piercing screech.

I get weird inspiration.)

Ah, memories.

Then suddenly, I remembered. A single line.

In my old teacher's voice.

"...The robot turned and left the room, and there was a loud -clang- as the door slammed shut behind it."

Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
I REMEMBER
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
I REMEMBER HOW IT ENDED
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
in Ms Rainier's voice because she read it out because I was too embarrassed to read it out myself
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
in the end they wanted to assimilate the guy but he refused and so the robot left him alone to die
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
something like
Avnas Ishtaroth - STUDY STUDY STUDY says:
"The robot left the room, and there was a loud -clang- as the door fell shut behind him"

Memories.

Thankyou, Ms Rainier, for introducing me to the world of true science fiction.


to read my dystopian story from the exam, go here

brb exams

funnnnnnnnnnnnn










also, happy birthday /b/